The front derailleur on my current road bike has been a problem since I got it. If you want the whole story, you can read it here: https://mondoblahblah.blogspot.com/2018/04/all-together-now.html
The microSHIFT derailleur supplied with the Cycles Toussaint Velo Routier v2 DIY build kit was just never quite right. It worked, but in order to shift to the large chainring I had to "overshift" so that the outer plate rubbed the inside of the crank arm and then trim the derailleur back once the chain made the move to the big ring.
The crank arm didn't completely come to a stop when it made contact with the derailleur cage, but to avoid as much "rubbing" as I could, I tried to shift up only after the drive-side pedal passed the 12 o'clock position and have all trimming complete before it reached the 9 o'clock spot. Obviously harder when pedaling at a high cadence.
I got used to the motion, so it wasn't a huge problem. Since I spend about 95% of my time on the big 46 tooth ring, it wasn't much more than a minor annoyance. But the derailleur never actually worked the way it's supposed to, and it spent far more time rubbing on the crank arm than should ever be the case. We do it all the time, but we should never have to conform our behavior to compensate for the inadequacy of our equipment. We deserve to have stuff that works!
microSHIFT 9/10-speed front derailleur |
These "winter months" tend to be when I attend to the routine maintenance of my bikes in preparation for the much more active spring riding season. This year I needed to re-wrap the handlebars and while I was doing that I thought I'd try a different cable routing for my bar-end shifters, running the cables under the bar wrap rather than having the big swoopy loops of cable housing jutting out over the front wheel where is kind of interferes with my rack-mounted handlebar bag. AND while I was at THAT, I might just as well see if I could do something about the annoying front derailleur.
After removing the microShift unit, I immediately noticed two things about it:
- The model number does not match that listed on the Cycles Toussaint site (FD-R62 vs. FD-R74E)
- It is marked "9/10 Flat Handlebar"
microSHIFT FD-R62 9/10-speed front derailleur |
Shimano Ultegra 10-speed front derailleur |
You probably won't be surprised to learn that of course the Shimano derailleur works better. At least it is easier to adjust so that the chain moves to the big ring without the derailleur rubbing on the crank arm. And it shifts down just as reliably. Altogether it just provides a much more confidence inspiring shifting experience. It does seem to take more "trimming" when I'm cross chaining. I think the Ultegra cage, which is specifically 10-speed only, not 9/10-speed, is narrower than the microSHIFT's, which would account for the difference. Saint Sheldon confirms.
I suspect I'll spend more time trimming at the outside edges of the shifting range, and I'll see if that drives me crazy. For the moment, it's just nice to be able to pull up to the big ring in a single motion without having to think about where the crank arm is in its rotation
So the moral of the story is that you should never leave an expensive Shimano component lying around in a box when you have an equivalent budget part you aren't happy with. Slap it on, see if it works. What have you got to lose?
Interesting! I built up the same bike, and I have a little bit of the rubbing issue (though maybe not as bad as it sounds like yours had). But I always thought it was more an issue with the crankset than the derailleur, the crank being very flat and close to the chainring (a low Q-factor?). But I suppose it's the interplay of the two components that creates the issue.
ReplyDeleteI think your intuition is generally right, Jesse. The crank arms on the Luxe crank are perfectly straight, which seems in keeping with similar "retro" style crank sets from Velo Orange, Rene Herse, etc. It's just the style, I guess. I have a 1986 Fuji and note that the front derailleur has a perfectly flat outer cage plate. More "modern" crank arms (Shimano, etc.) seem to flare out a bit and there's a lot of "shaping" on the newer derailleurs. I presume the "new" configurations have to do with the ever-expanding gaps between lower and upper chainring tooth counts in the 9+ gears era. All speculation on my part. Whatever the case, the Ultegra, which is narrower, manages to push the chain up to the big ring without coming in contact with the crank arm. The only tradeoff seems to be the aforementioned need to trim more often. It was never a serious problem, and if I didn't have the derailleur in the parts bin I never would have even considered going out to buy a replacement for the microSHIFT derailleur.
DeleteAlso, I just noticed this on the Cycles Toussaint site:
Deletehttps://www.cyclestoussaint.com/products/luxe-46t-30t-50-4-bcd-double-ring-crankset
"Narrow cage front derailleur is recommended - will not work with modern triple ring front derailleur with wide cages."
Again, I have no idea it this is useful information or not, given that the derailleur we've been using was supplied by them - presumably it was chosen because it works with their selected crankarm!
Whatever the case, if it works, it works. Enjoy the bike as it is or tinker with it if you're a tinkerer. As long as it makes you happy, it's a good bike.
~BB